This is a older black Simco Saddle # 13-087. Has a 15" seat and a 6" gullet. The tree is solid and tight. Leather is in good used condition no tears or cuts just your normal wear. Needs some conchoes and some have some rust as do the rings. Does need new fleece underneath and the stitching on the horn is coming loose. Would make a good second hand saddle or for decore. Look at photos.